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I posted a thread in the Mac Tech Support tribe about my *hideous* iMac speed, and someone replied, "my PPC slowed way down after I used Time Machine." So supposing the problem *is* Time Machine... I don't even have the external hard drive attached to the iMac at the moment. Is there any way to disable whatever processing Time Machine is doing in the background when I'm not actually trying to use it? I may only want/need to hook up the hard drive and do a backup a couple of times a month. I don't want Time Machine doing all its overhead crap in the meantime.
Here's the original post. Any ideas, anyone?
mactech.tribe.net/thread/0d...a7bec5eccc
I have a 24" iMac. I bought it maybe a year and a half ago. When I bought it, the first thing I did was install the maximum amount of RAM it would take (at least that's my understanding). But Jesus Christ this thing is slow!! If I click on the menu bar for Finder or whatever program I'm running, it can take a good five seconds before the drop-down menu will pop up. Then I can slide over maybe five or six menu items that pop up instantly, then when I hover over the next one, it will take another five seconds before the drop-down menu will display. When I'm scrolling through something, I can get through several lines or maybe a screen, and then it will freeze for maybe five seconds before it resumes scrolling. The same thing when I'm just typing text into a window (like this one). A couple/few times a minute, the typing will just freeze for a few seconds, then a bunch of letters will appear all at once. And God help me if I'm actually trying to click on web links. Of course, nearly every time any of these things happen, I get the rotating rainbow circle telling me that it's *trying* to do something. It just can't do it fast enough. It's WAY slower than any of my crappy old Windows laptops. It feels like it's always grinding along, never able to keep up with even the simplest tasks. Is there anything I can do about this? Do I need to defrag my hard drive or something? What the hell is going on???
Here's my hardware info:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version: 1.21f4
Any thoughts, anyone?
Here's the original post. Any ideas, anyone?
mactech.tribe.net/thread/0d...a7bec5eccc
I have a 24" iMac. I bought it maybe a year and a half ago. When I bought it, the first thing I did was install the maximum amount of RAM it would take (at least that's my understanding). But Jesus Christ this thing is slow!! If I click on the menu bar for Finder or whatever program I'm running, it can take a good five seconds before the drop-down menu will pop up. Then I can slide over maybe five or six menu items that pop up instantly, then when I hover over the next one, it will take another five seconds before the drop-down menu will display. When I'm scrolling through something, I can get through several lines or maybe a screen, and then it will freeze for maybe five seconds before it resumes scrolling. The same thing when I'm just typing text into a window (like this one). A couple/few times a minute, the typing will just freeze for a few seconds, then a bunch of letters will appear all at once. And God help me if I'm actually trying to click on web links. Of course, nearly every time any of these things happen, I get the rotating rainbow circle telling me that it's *trying* to do something. It just can't do it fast enough. It's WAY slower than any of my crappy old Windows laptops. It feels like it's always grinding along, never able to keep up with even the simplest tasks. Is there anything I can do about this? Do I need to defrag my hard drive or something? What the hell is going on???
Here's my hardware info:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version: 1.21f4
Any thoughts, anyone?
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 6:48 AMNot time machine. When a backup is not happening, Time Machine is pretty much non-existent.
Sounds more like a disk issue. Have you booted off the OS disk and run disk utility or DiskWarrior? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 5:04 PMYikes! No, I don't even know how to do that. Is it easy? I don't suppose you could point me toward instructions? :) -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 6:47 PMi don't think it's time machine
Is your hard disk almost full ?
You need about 19 gigs open space for disk and page swapping ( virtual memorry )
Other wise , down load Macjanitor® and use it often
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it opens up space , comsolidates fragmented files and gets rid of stuff you don't need that the Mac® would get rid of automatically on a monthly, weekly and daily basis any way
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it works
mac tech support tribe
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 8:45 PM19 GIG?
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Wed, June 17, 2009 - 8:49 AMThe rule is 15% of your total disk size should be left available for swap (virtual memory). I recommend at least 4x your total RAM. So if you've got 2 GB RAM, be sure you always have at least 8 GB free on your boot drive. More is better, of course. -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:37 AMI remembered that I still have AppleCare, so I called Apple support for help with these suggestions.
I'm not ready to talk about it. The pain is too fresh.
I'm only being slightly melodramatic.
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 5:33 PMHave you ever trashed your computer so badly you'd almost rather lose all the data than go through what you'd need to go through to get it back to some semblance of the way it was? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:26 PMOkay, here's a question: Let's say that I have a somewhat recent Time Machine backup of my iMac. Let's also say that I was talked into re-installing my iMac's operating system from scratch, and it wasn't able to perform a backup of my previous system first. Can I take my Time Machine backup and get my machine back to exactly the way it was at the time of the last backup, including getting my applications back, and *especially* including getting my Parallels desktop back to the way it was so that I don't lose all of the data and functionality I ported from my Windows laptop? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 8:42 AMYes. Boot off the Leopard installer disc and there's an option in there to restore a Time Machine backup. Here's a blog from someone who's done it and can explain the process in detail:
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 4:34 PMI'm so sorry I haven't thanked you for this yet, Jory. The truth is that I couldn't bear thinking about it at all this week. I haven't even had the mental fortitude to turn my iMac on at all this week. (I have a friend I regularly meet up with in Second Life who might be a bit miffed at me.)
I am... cautiously optimistic about this, but trying not to get my hopes up, and preparing for the possibility that I might just lose all of my Parallels data. (Hopefully I'll at least be able to rebuild my iTunes library, though.) I took care of everything in my personal life that was lingering: I cleaned my room, did my laundry, returned the heap of emails that I'd let pile up, etc., and now I have nothing left to do today but try to get my iMac working again from my Time Machine backup using the instructions you posted. The last thing that remained before I could begin this process was to thank you. So...
Thank you very much. :)
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 7:56 PMI can't believe it... it worked!! Even Parallels!!
Oh, God, Jory, thank you SO MUCH!!!!
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 12:06 AMYay! Glad you're back and working again. -
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Mon, June 29, 2009 - 11:34 AMThank you!! I still can hardly believe it. It really did go back to *exactly* the way it was at the time of my last backup. Honestly, I didn't expect it to work so perfectly. :) -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 1:56 PMIt took twenty years...in another year or two it will be technically perfect for sure! Garanteed!
Seriously though, thanks for shouting out your success with time machine. I haven't had to deal with this...yet...but it's good to know it actually works for some. -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 2:27 PMi can almost gurandamtee it also √
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Mon, June 29, 2009 - 3:43 PM"I haven't had to deal with this...yet...but it's good to know it actually works for some."
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 11:54 AMOkay, goddammit, this is insane. I took my kick-ass, supercharged iMac, with only 90GB used out of 300GB, into the Genius Bar, and they said it's absolutely fine, nothing to fix. But if I open up iTunes and play a song, it pauses every 10-15 seconds. How can someone enjoy music like that?? I want to throw this frigging thing out the window. I made sure there was *nothing else running* but iTunes (no little blue dots underneath anything on the dock but iTunes and Finder), and it didn't help. Does anyone else have this problem? WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS WRONG WITH MY COMPUTER??? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 12:15 PMI wonder if the third party RAM you installed is causing issues. Have you tried troubleshooting that route? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 12:43 PMNot unless that's part of the diagnostics that they would have performed at the Genius Bar. How would I troubleshoot potential 3rd-party RAM problems? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 12:57 PMYou'd remove/replace it in order to discount the variable.
In troubleshooting, you want to remove all variables so you can discover the true cause(s) of an issue. The first step for you would be to remove the RAM you added and put back the RAM that shipped with the machine. The second step I'd recommend is clean installing Mac OS X on a second hard drive, to ensure the issue is not a corruption in your operating system.
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 2:13 PMYikes.
Then *really* the first step is for me to find the RAM that came with the machine. :)
Thanks so much, Jory. :) This makes much more sense than what the Apple "genius" was telling me. (My roommate laughed when I told her it was called the "Genius Bar," and she said that the name just begs people to make fun of the employees. I'm afraid she may be right.) I'm not sure about the second step, though. I have an external hard drive that I've been using for Time Machine backups. Do you mean I should install the operating system there? What would that tell me? Does it matter that the problem didn't go away when I re-installed my operating system from the discs? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 6:02 PMI actually have been rather impressed with the knowledge of the Geniuses at the Apple Store. Apple has done an admirable job of getting very capable techs.
As for your issue and troubleshooting...
The goal is to see whether your currently-installed OS is the issue or if there appears to be some underlying problem (sometimes faulty hardware) that is causing the issues you're seeing. By installing the OS in a clean manner (not on top of an existing installation), you can use the machine and see if it continues to hiccup like you've seen so far.
When you reinstalled the OS before, did you do a completely clean install? Or did you put it over the top of your existing OS?
Do not overwrite your Time Machine backup; backups are important! Instead, get yourself a FireWire drive and install the Mac OS on that. Boot from that disc and use the machine for a bit to see if the problem still occurs. That is the safest test you could perform. -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sat, August 1, 2009 - 10:52 PMJust to check here, is the music you are playing in iTunes on your system drive, or a second hard drive? -
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Sun, August 2, 2009 - 9:46 AMThe music is on the system drive. -
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Mon, August 3, 2009 - 5:38 PMMusic ?
Pandora Radio - Listen to Free Internet Radio, Find New Music
Pandora radio is the personalized internet radio service that helps you find new music based on your old and current favorites. Create custom web radio ...
www.pandora.com is the coolest app these days on Desktops , Laptops & the IPhone or Touch ®
Alo'ha from California at the moment
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 12:00 AMAgreed. I can't think of anything on the internet cooler than Pandora.
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Sun, August 2, 2009 - 9:45 AMOkay, I think that all makes sense for now. Thanks, Jory. :)
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 2:53 AMDid you try creating a new administrator account and seeing if you had a problem playing the same music from that account? That would determine whether the problem is caused by a user account file...and not by hardware. If you've already ruled out software as a factor, my apologies if this is now a moldy suggestion.
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Re: Disable Time Machine processing?
Tue, June 16, 2009 - 8:58 PMI'd be inclined to open the Activity Monitor utility (it's in the "Utilities" folder in the "Applications" folder) and click on the "CPU" column so that the processes that are using the most CPU time will be at the top of the list. This can help identify things that are hogging the processor(s). It's not always easy to determine what program all those processes actually belong to, but if there's something using up a bunch of CPU time it should show up there. You can also view other system resources, such as memory utilization, disk, etc. using the tabs at the bottom of the Activity Monitor. If your hard drive is very low on space that can also really slow down your Mac.
Also, strange as it sounds, this could be a network related issue, such as DNS. If your Mac is trying to use the network for something such as mounting a shared folder that's no longer available sometimes that can make everything else really slow, even stuff that's not using the network. Are you able to successfully browse the web, for example, or do you get a bunch of "server not found" errors?
Let us know what you find.
Dana