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Hello everyone! :) I've just noticed something a bit puzzling about the music library on my iPhone. I noticed a couple of days ago that one of my Todd Rundgren compilation albums is missing from the list of my Todd Rundgren albums, and last night I noticed that one of my Yes compilation albums is missing from the list of my Yes albums. I just checked the iTunes library I sync with on my iMac, and they're both there. Under "Sync Music" in iTunes (which is checked), I've selected "Entire music library." "Sync only checked songs and videos" and "Manually manage music and videos" are both unchecked, and I have over 6 GB of free space on my phone. If I try to find a song from the "missing" albums in "All songs," the song is there, and when I play it, it lets me select the album it's playing from, and I can play the entire album. And it shows up as being under the correct artist. But when I go to that artist, the album isn't in the list, nor is there a semi-duplicate name in the list of artists, like there used to be for a group who showed up as both "echolyn" and "Echolyn", because one album has their name capitalized and one doesn't. I don't know quite when this started happening, but I'd say sometime in the last month or two. I think the only significant thing I've done in that time is upgrade to iTunes 10.5.3 and iOS 5.0.1. I did notice that iTunes automatically corrected the "echolyn"/"Echolyn" thing in the last update, and automatically categorized both albums as being from the same artist, like they should be. Could this have something to do with that, in reverse or something?
Does anyone know what the hell is going on??
Does anyone know what the hell is going on??
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Re: Puzzling iPhone iOS 5 iTunes synching problem
Fri, February 3, 2012 - 1:56 PMTo clarify, the "missing" albums *do* show up under the correct artist in iTunes; just not on my iPhone. I've tried re-synching and rebooting my iPhone, but neither helped. -
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Sun, February 5, 2012 - 2:11 PMQueen I is also "gone." (The album is still there, but I can't get to it by going to Queen.) I suspect that others are as well. I figured out Queen I was gone because during the final synching step, "Waiting for changes to be applied," it rattles off a huge list of songs that apparently it's doing *something* with for some reason, and I barely managed to catch "Keep Yourself Alive," from that album. So I went to Queen, and sure enough, the album's not there. What the hell kind of changes does it think it needs to do to these songs?? Every time I sync??
I guess that answers my question as to whether or not it's only doing this to compilation albums. -
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Tue, February 7, 2012 - 12:26 PMWhat version of iTunes are you using? 10.5.3 is the latest iteration. What you might try to do is simply remove all music from the iPhone via the latest version of iTunes and then try putting one of these "missing" albums back on the iPhone and see if it sticks.
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Sat, February 4, 2012 - 5:09 PMI was about to write and say that I've had similar sync problems with photo albums and iOS 5, but instead I have to say:
WTF!? You're an echolyn fan!? Know how many people I've met who've even *heard* of echolyn!? -
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Sat, February 4, 2012 - 9:23 PM"As The World," baby. :) An *awesome* album. There are *several* truly *stunning* songs on that album. That's quite rare indeed, to have that many truly exceptional songs on a single album. Sometimes I'll go for a week or more where that's the only album I'll listen to. (Granted, not constantly; only when I'm out running errands and grocery shopping and such, but still....)
Why aren't you in my Progressive/Art Rock tribe?? :) -
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Sat, February 4, 2012 - 9:33 PMOh, and I have to say: Back when I *gushed* in here about the new iTunes visualizer:
osx.tribe.net/thread/0d79...72e135c28ce9
images.tribe.net/tribe/upl...af80652ccd
As The World is one of the two albums I spent two evenings "watching." :) (The other was Hybris by Änglagård, but I think the visualizer seems to go *especially* well with As The World. :) )
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Mon, February 6, 2012 - 11:37 AM"As the World" is one of the best sounding albums I've ever heard. I absolutely love the drum tones.
The earlier albums are fantastic, too, but "As the World" is pure magic.
I'm not in that tribe because I didn't know it exists. :-) -
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Mon, February 6, 2012 - 12:54 PM""As the World" is pure magic."
It *really* is. :)
(I'm listening to it now, in fact. :) A Habit Worth Forming still gives me goosebumps nearly every time I listen to it. And you have GOT to watch it on the new equalizer. Holy God.)
Delighted to have you in there! I'll welcome you properly in a bit. :)
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Tue, February 7, 2012 - 6:51 PMJory et.al., Tuesday 5 pm hst • ≠
" As the world " turns . .i dunno' but i've been told that iTunes ® only downloads cover art work from music you have actually and in fact down loaded and have purchased from the iTunes ® store .
The darn store won't let me up load my own ƒanciful artwork n e more for albums that do not provide such !
Waa Waa ( By George Harrison - it's a song :)
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Wed, February 8, 2012 - 7:51 PMa) It's not about the artwork. (In fact, the albums show up just fine in iTunes.)
b) I've uploaded a bunch of my own cover art photos into iTunes with no problems. :) -
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Thu, February 9, 2012 - 6:46 AMEnrika , 12:43 hst •
i got a ton of Queen CD's . Wanna' borrow them ¿ Hard to believe Freddy Mercury has been dead for ≠ 21 years now , huh ¿
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury Fat Bottomed Girls - Killer Queen: A Tribute To Queen
George Michael & Queen - Somebody To Love , Under Pressure - Freddie Mercury/Roger Taylor/David Bowie/Brian May/John Deacon etc .
The internet will run out of discrete addresses this summer , upgrade to IP version 6 if you can
2 ) Shop my daughter's place for V - Day www.wingshawaii.com Ma'ui
3 ) So have i Enrika ( uploaded artwork ) but , then again i use an IBMPowerPC TiPowerbook still , also , and [ get this ] it , the laptop t h i n k s it's an iPod touch now . It does ! h t h , 4º4 ∞ -
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Fri, February 10, 2012 - 9:49 AMThat's very sweet of you, thank you. :) But I already have all the Queen albums (and I'm really not interested in the tribute stuff... there's nothing like the original :) ).
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Sat, February 11, 2012 - 1:33 PMshucks,
Another one bites the . ....
*<;-)
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Sun, February 12, 2012 - 8:34 AMNotable Cover songs:
Dolly Parton - Stairway to Heaven
The Isley Brothers - Summer Breeze
The English Beat - Tears of A Clown
Frank Sinatra - My Way
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Sun, February 12, 2012 - 9:32 PMThat's a good one. :) I'm also quite partial to this one (which seems like it should be just *awful*, but is actually quite good):
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Mon, February 13, 2012 - 1:38 PMEnrika , Monday noon hst ≠
. .under iTunes Preferences-- > Advanced try un checking " Group compilations while browsing and hear what happens . .
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Re: Puzzling iPhone iOS 5 iTunes synching problem
Mon, February 13, 2012 - 11:17 PM"under iTunes Preferences-- > Advanced try un checking " Group compilations while browsing and hear what happens . ."
I don't have any such option in iTunes Preferences | Advanced. (I'm running the latest version (at least for OS X 10.5.8), which is 10.5.3.) In addition, "Part of a compilation" isn't a setting that exists when editing multiple tracks at once (at least not that I could find), so I had to manually uncheck that box for every single track of every single album that it thought was a compilation (which was something of a pain, but it was a pain that WORKED :) ). -
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Thu, February 16, 2012 - 12:42 PM>In addition, "Part of a compilation" isn't a setting that exists when editing multiple tracks at once (at least not that I could find)
If it is part of the track info dialog box, it should be editable with multiple tunes at once. How are you selecting multiple music tracks at once to do this editing…I'm don't have the latest version on my computer at the moment to take a look at how this works. (Trying to keep my mp3s backwards compatible with OS 9/classic is causing all sorts of headaches…) -
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Thu, February 16, 2012 - 6:14 PMOh, crap! You're right! It *IS* in there! It's just on the Options tab instead of the Info tab. That's why I didn't see it. And, honestly, I blame the product designers for this one. If I select just one track, the "Part of a compilation" setting is on the Info tab but not the Options tab. If I select multiplle tracks, the setting is on the Options tab but not the Info tab. DESIGN FAIL. Seriously. That, as Archer would say, "is just baby-time frolics."
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Thu, February 16, 2012 - 11:18 PMiTunes has NEVER followed good UI design principles.
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Sun, February 12, 2012 - 8:31 AMOK, I'm going to throw out a bunch of ideas here. I'm going to use Yes as the example because it is easier to type than Todd Rundgren. I order to test these things out, you may need to unsync the library and then resync it.
Checking tack info:
Using the Get Info command in iTunes select a track from Yes that is synching to the phone. Compare that to a track that isn't synching. Check to see what information is different, like is Album Artist field filled out on one and not the other. Is the album labeled (incorrectly) as a compilation. If you display all the albums of the band together, you should be able to get the last track of the album that isn't synching right next to the first track of an album that is. That way you can toggle between the two in the Get Info window. My suspicion is that there is a discrepancy in how the artist is labeled. I don't like the Album Artist field and clear it whenever I have can. It seems to give problems sometimes but my research is not scientific at all on this. Reconcile differences (see below) and then resync.
Normalize the track info:
Sometimes I think there is a difference the way iTunes reads track info. Maybe there is a space after the artist name and when it comes to synching that messes things up. So normalize the track information, ie make it all the same. Display ALL of the Yes albums in iTunes (i would avoid compilations that have Yes on them.) Select them all. Go to the Get Info window and in the artist field RETYPE Yes. I'd check the Album Artist field to force it to clear. Click ok. And resync.
Differing iTunes accounts
Are some of the tracks you are trying to sync iTunes purchased music? Is it possible that it's stuff that you aren't authorized to play because it's from a secondary iTunes account or someone else's like a significant other. Again, the Summary view of the Get Info window will display this information. Summary view is only available when you look at a single track.
Bad metadata
If the tracks were acquired from a weird or unknown source like Limewire, it's possible that the metadata is corrupted. I've had buggy albums that refused to comply with being renamed and stuff. In some instances, I was able to correct it by 1) copying the music files to the desktop. 2) removing the tracks from iTunes and trashing the referenced files, 3) re-importing the tracks back in
NOTE:
Remember iTunes does not have the music files in it. iTunes is like a card catalog in a library. The music files are on a bookshelf somewhere and iTunes references them. So it's possible that the card catalog iTunes library file is corrupt.
Re-import the tracks from CD
If this is an option, try re-importing the tracks. It might not be an option.
Keep iTunes Organized
In iTunes preferences, is the Keep iTunes Media Folder Organized checked? I can barely fathom why someone would uncheck that. Usually Windows people do because they don't understand how iTunes organizes things and they'll label their tracks as Beatles, The. Anyways, that could have something to do with it but I don't know what.
Music files are in multiple locations:
If, like me, your music is on an external hard drive and not on the computer itself, this can present a problem if you ever launch iTunes and the drive isn't connected. iTunes will then store files in the default location (/Users/yourusername/Music/iTunes/). If you quit iTunes then reconnect the drive, then it will resume saving files to the external. But now you've got files in two places. That's a problem for backing-up and it could be something that is causing the problem you are having.
Rebuild iTunes Library.
Depending on the size of your library this could be big. You might want to google this and get a more detailed explanation with pictures. Basically quit iTunes. go to /Users/yourusername/Music/iTunes/ and remove the iTunes Library.xml, iTunes Library.itl...etc. Basically any FILE (not folder) that begins iTunes Library... Then when you launch iTunes it will be empty. Drag the /Users/yourusername/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media folder to iTunes and it will re-add all your tracks.
Note: doing the above will remove all your play lists, play counts and some other metadata not stored in the track files. It could also take a long time to rebuild. AGAIN: If you go this route, find a more detailed how to than what I wrote.
OK, well there goes my Sunday morning ;)! Ask any questions. Not sure if I have personal messaging turned on here but you could find me on Facebook if you wanted to. I do get notifications there. This is the only Tribe I look at on a regular basis.
My hunch is that the issue has to do with Album Artist but I am prejudiced against that Field. It has given me problems in the past.
If there is a guest artist on the track of note, I put that information in the Track field - Rundabout (featuring Todd Rundgren) rather than in the Artist field. That way I don't have to label the album as a compilation, which it isn't. -
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Sun, February 12, 2012 - 9:30 PMOh my God, Pink, you SO ROCK!!! Every single album that had stopped synching properly (and there were a *bunch*) had "Part of a compilation" checked. And only about a third of them actually are compilations (and the ones that are are all from the same artist, and just part of a "greatest hits" album, so they *do* belong under that artist). I went through every artist in iTunes and looked for the corresponding albums on my iPhone, and wherever one was missing, I manually unchecked "Part of a compilation" and re-synched, and now *everything* that was missing is back!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
I can't believe you typed all that out for me. I'm terribly grateful. :) -
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Mon, February 13, 2012 - 3:50 PMWell that's good to know. Managing the iTunes library is the one thing I know a lot about. Also, so many people have helped me in my Mac Life that it's just payback.
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Mon, February 13, 2012 - 7:07 PM. .heh . . 12.13.13 5 pm ish hst •
i almost always de authorize my account , also , when i sign in or turn on my units ( ITunes --> Advanced -- > Deauthorize ) because between my kids and i and the Apple ® gear we would go banckrupt downloading stuƒƒ
The default mode is to have it authorizied such that n e one with your equipment can download a w a y . . . ...
There is also ( or was ) a " Provide iTunes Feedback " button under the iTunes drop menu ^^ above ^^
Adele sure cleaned up last night , didn't she ? ∞ Whitney lives . .on CD's DVD's and tapes near you . . ...i seen Elvis yesterday here in Hawai'i √ -
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Thu, February 16, 2012 - 8:48 PMThis tribe is the only reason I still log onto tribe :-)
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